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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2011, 00:03 

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Location: New Orleans, LA
Well it is time again. I have not posted since the first simple mods I made on a late 60's 1432 flatboat. Several months ago I pulled the trigger on a larger boat. I really wanted the following:

1. At least 17' long
2. At least 50+ inches wide
3. All welded hull
4. Working motor that maxed out the hp for the boat

Well $1600 later and I got all but #3 (I could not justify the extra $ it would have cost to get an all weld). It is a 1987 Alumacraft MV Super Bandit and is 17' 8" long and 52" wide at the bottom. It has a 1987 Evinrude 88 SPL that was rebuilt in 2005 and runs like a champ (at least it has for the past several months).

This will be a weekend project so it will be slow going but it can't go too slow because I do not want to miss too much spring fishing which is not too far away here in New Orleans. I have already removed the decking, console, and hatch lids this past weekend. This weekend I hope to get the motor off and start replacing the transom (which is original and in probably not very good shape). I am open to any suggestions and will put forth some of my ideas and plans in a later post. I am almost certain I will be going with an all aluminum build with no carpet though I have not decided on either kiwigrip, skid no more, or some similar item. Any thoughts?

Anyone know a decent and affordable aluminum welder in the New Orleans area for some small repairs?


File comment: Some damage already done taking my father fishing on the boat. This was the best trip I have had since I started fishing a couple years ago and am glad I had my father along for the ride.
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File comment: Motor and prop.
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File comment: Trailer in decent shape though I will probably paint it. It absolutely needs new bunks, about half of each 2x4 is left.
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File comment: small cooler between two seats (or one for the moment!), livewell lids opened.
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File comment: Working saltwater trolling motor, lower hatch is large storage, upper left is for battery, upper right is baitwell.
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File comment: Back hatch holds 10 gallon aluminum tank and two smaller hatches give access to livewell.
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PostPosted: 03 Feb 2011, 15:57 
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Looks like a great boat to work with. What kinds of fish are those?


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PostPosted: 03 Feb 2011, 22:03 

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Thanks!

The fish are mostly speckled trout, the ones with pronounced stripes are sheephead, a black drum to the left of the sheephead, and two redfish.

In the event that I cannot get the shop hoist i have lined up for this weekend is it possible to lift a motor of this size with 2-3 people looking to throw out their backs?


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PostPosted: 04 Feb 2011, 00:14 
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cathprod wrote:

In the event that I cannot get the shop hoist i have lined up for this weekend is it possible to lift a motor of this size with 2-3 people looking to throw out their backs?

Two can, with some struggle. 3 and a floor jack, and it won't be all that hard.

I used to have an '87 Alumacraft Super Bandit. Didn't have the time to do anything with it, so I sold it to AlumacraftJoe, on this board. Nice stout hull, even if the factory interior wasn't the greatest.



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PostPosted: 05 Feb 2011, 21:16 

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Saturday Updates!

Built a motor stand and bought a steering wheel puller and used it and a shop hoist to lift the motor of off the boat (scary but successful with a 288 lb motor by yourself).

Also did some more demo and I am thinking I will deck this boat with expansion foam because that stuff is strong!!! It is a pain in the you know what to remove and in my estimation has been the most aggravating part of this project thus far. Anyone have any tips?

The factory aluminum floor and framing will be reinstalled after I take care of the leaky rivets though it will require some additional support since I am going with aluminum decking as opposed to plywood which it originally had. I will also be getting rid of the livewell in order to frame the deck around an ice chest.

All in all I am pleased with today's progress and after looking at the ribs that I can see it is pretty evident that this boat was built well.

Bassboy, I stumbled upon your super bandit both here and on iboats when I was researching after first buying this boat and was sorry to see that you got rid of it. I was hoping you would pave the way for me even though my ability pales in comparison to yours! Let me know if you have any suggestions or concerns based on your experience with the boat.


File comment: I am glad this worked out. Rolled it away, hooked it up to the battery and gave it its weekly running.
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File comment: Still have to remove the flooring for access to the rivets
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File comment: I removed some of this foam after taking this and think it will take a while.
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File comment: Still demo left to do
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File comment: Some of the hatch lids and various things removed (some of it reusable)
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2011, 20:47 

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I was able to complete more of the demo on the boat. Being that my wife is pregnant I did not have as much time as I may have liked, but I have to keep my priorities straight!

It looks like a little more welding will be needed than I anticipated. As you can see below the transom is shot (I can poke a hole all the way through with my finger on the outsides of it). Given this I now know why there are a few hairline cracks in a couple of spots.

I will not be putting the livewell back in and would like to know what your thoughts are on sealing the holes created from removing the plastic thru hull fittings (see picture below). There are two of them and the biggest is the one pictured.


File comment: Transom, at least what's left of it.
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File comment: Any ideas on patching this?
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File comment: Using a shovel to remove the flotation foam.
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File comment: Getting close to a blank slate.
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PostPosted: 13 Feb 2011, 21:21 
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Looks like you've got a good project going. Looking forward to watching it progress. Good luck with it!



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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2011, 10:56 

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Well after a long hiatus (I had the busiest several weeks of work in my life) I was able to spend a few hours removing the transom and finding a new problem here and there that needs fixing.
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Now 2 questions:

1. Any non-welding suggestions for this hole? The previous owner used what appeared to be jb weld and it actually seemed to do a pretty good job (i fished from the boat for a while before starting this mod). It is less than 1/2" in diameter
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2. Any ideas on this post I placed in the boat house? I would like to not do wood but welding is not an option due to the cost.

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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2011, 11:15 
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I'd get all thoughs holes welded. It doesnt cost alot of money! If you dont get it welded a patch job will only last so long, not to mention the size of the hole you would be trying to patch.


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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2011, 11:22 

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Well I guess I should start making a list of all things that would be best fixed by welding and find a good welder. Still wondering if anyone made a transom out of aluminum tubing without welding, I'm curious to know how it has held up.


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Nice! Looks like you lost about 100 pounds in waterlogged and rotting crap lol


How fast does that thing run?



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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2011, 12:30 

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dyeguy1212 wrote:
Nice! Looks like you lost about 100 pounds in waterlogged and rotting crap lol


How fast does that thing run?


It would run 30-35 at just above 3/4 throttle. The motor was rebuilt 6 years ago and the guy who rebuilt it told the previous owner not to run it WOT. If I go above 3/4 it will trigger the alarm. I am hoping that by decreasing the weight in the rebuild that I can get closer to 40.


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PostPosted: 22 Jun 2011, 18:50 

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Hey cathprod, I just got this exact same boat a couple days ago and was about to go through and remove some old wiring and such. Looks like its been through several different pumps, switches, fish finders, etc, etc. Waaaay too many danglin' wires all around.

Its in pretty good shape, the carpet is pretty good except for missing carpet on rod locker and "cooler".

I would like to be able to remove the decks to attend to the wiring and checkout the pedistal mounts without mesing up the carpet if possible... Its been stormy weather since the day after I got it, so I haven't been able to mess with it. How are the decks fastened to the aluminum framing?

I can't tell form the pictures if they are only held by the screws around the edges of the decking or what?

Are there threaded bosses or something in the aluminum framing that those screws screw into? Or are they just screwed into the aluminum framing?

Your advice woudl eb appreciated!

Thanks!


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PostPosted: 22 Jun 2011, 19:53 

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It has been a while since I removed them but if my memory serves me correctly the decks were held only by screws that tapped into the framing.


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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2011, 23:02 

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Another question for ya, do you remember what has to come off to replace the transom? Trying to figure out what all I'll need to get the job done.

Thanks!


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