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Post by Kismet » 30 Apr 2012, 19:15

So, I thought about doing something more physically active as I age, or have aged.

Fishing! That'll do it. Get a little boat, a fishing rod, go out to the few near-by lakes, and catch a bunch of fish. Be healthy and not expensive, AND, I'll get some food out of it.

Got a 12ft semi-v boat, with trailer and 3.5 hp engine. Tinkered a bit, registered it, took it out, worked pretty well, even with the chop on the windy early Spring day.

Came to this site, read a bit, asked a bit, and pondered. Hmmmm <---me pondering.

Went Craig's list shopping and came up with a 5.5 hp Evinrude. By golly, that's the ticket!

Took it out, chop was there, exaggerated by the weight of the heavier motor.

Pondered. Hmmmm<---me pondering again.

Read some more. And more.

Figured since I had a 5.5 motor, it could work to power a bigger boat.

Just came home from picking up a 14ft Alumacraft F, last registered in 1995, and carefully stored outside in the rain, snow, and other beneficial elements. Didn't quite fit on the trailer, but I made do. Some modifications are in order.

Seems big. Deep, wide hull, needs transom work, and some of that aluminum cleaner-upper stuff from BassPro. Heavy sunnavagun.

Found myself thinking...you know, this boat would probably really like a slightly bigger engine.

OK. THIS is a trend. I now have two boats, two new-to-me motors, one trailer that wants some mods, and now I find myself looking at the renovations that the craftsmen who post on this site have done.

Think I should have taken up bridge.

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1955 Alumacraft Model A
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic ... 08&start=0
1959 Alumacraft Model F
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25386
1980 Alumacraft Model F7, 1955-56? Johnson 10hp
http://forum.tinboats.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35326
1956 Alumacraft Model RB
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39249

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Post by fool4fish1226 » 30 Apr 2012, 19:25

Don't worry to much, a bunch of us have the same sickness and if sixguns is still alive we should all be fine :LOL2:
Work: A dangerous disorder affecting high public functionaries who want to go fishing

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Post by Nismoron » 30 Apr 2012, 20:56

I feel your pain! In Feb, I got laid off... Immediatly sold my 17ft saltwater boat.
Missed fishing badly... Off to Cragslist...
Bought a Gheenoe with broken 1958 10hp outboard, paddled it for three months...
Got tired of paddling... Off to Craigslist... Bought trolling motor...
Used it for 3 months... Battery dies too fast... Off to Craigslist...
Bought 6hp Evinrude outboard... Ah, just perfect.
Tinkered with 10hp over winter, got it running.
Figured needed bigger boat... To Craigslist..
Looking for 14-16ft V-hull Boat, but bought rough condition 1960 Larson runabout to restore (with 50hp Johnson)
Said "scr*w it, cant fish from it" and cancelled restoration project... Back to craigs list...
Bought 14ft V-hull with 15hp Johnson... using old boat while I fix up and register this one...
Got tired of unused flyrods laying around... Back to craigslist... Rods for sale or trade...
Traded one rod for a 7.5 Gamefisher outboard...

Within past year (or so), I have bought 3 boats, 3 trailers, 1 trolling motor, and 4 outboards. If I come home with another, all of the above may be available at my estate sale... :shock:

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Post by bcbouy » 30 Apr 2012, 23:33

don't sweat it too much. after you catch that 10,000 th fish it will have just about payed for itself :LOL2:
if all else fails....stop using all else

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Post by jigngrub » 01 May 2012, 07:04

Kismet wrote:Seems big. Deep, wide hull, needs transom work, and some of that aluminum cleaner-upper stuff from BassPro. Heavy sunnavagun.
We need to see some pics of this boat!

Congratulations on the new boat... you'll soon own a fleet of fixer-uppers. :wink:
Rum, wenches, and song... just another day on my boat.

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Post by BloodStone » 01 May 2012, 09:54

Welcome to my world! A half finished 15' bass boat sitting in the disaster called my garage that I brought last year for a song. Traded a 25hp Merc for a 70hp Johnson to put on it & did (even brought a new prop for it). Was going to tackle BB in late winter/early spring BUT...purchased a newer pickup truck. Better gas mileage but, not near the pulling or horsepower of the old. Then gas shot up to almost $4.00 a gallon (thank you Mr. Obama & company! :evil: ) & I found it economically infeasible to use on a regular basis (i.e cost to tow & use on the lake). So it'll be going up for sale asap on Craigslist. Ditto for a 11' Sea Sport tri-hull Boston Whaler knock off (which my friend affectionately refers to as "the bastard boat"). Because I can't seem to find any 20-25hp outboards (non-tiller) with a long enough shaft to extend at or below the cavitation plate. Just bought a 10.5' Sun Dolphin pro 110 for $350.00 two months ago (no seats or trailer) to replace a paper-thin aluminum Jon boat (slightly modified) I had just sold. SD needed some work (new base plates & electrical switch replacement) & I put a casting decking on it up front along with a Anchor Mate wench (river & pond/small lakes). Now, I am currently working on a 14' Meyers Semi-V aluminum I brought about 6 weeks ago to replace the Bass Boat. The 25hp from the "bastard boat" is going on that. And on & on...So far the wife has been pretty tolerant but, not towards the neglect of other 'to do' projects needing attention NOT related to boating or fishing. :?
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Post by Trapper02 » 01 May 2012, 16:25

Yea lets see those pics!

I know what you mean i was just like you on picking out a boat. My two man boat was slowing running out of life. First i thought get a new two man and get back to fishing... dang kinda expensive. Then i thought for that price i could get a nice flat bottom jon boat, and have some more room and do a little customization. Already got a trailer i can fit a 12' boat on there. Then i decide if i am gonna customize i want a casting deck for sure. oh dang 12' is to small, ok no biggie lets go 14' and have more room and i'll get one with a trailer plus go with a V style if i want to get on bigger waters... sweet found a boat, bought that sucker... did i say 14'? Oh well 16' is much more roomier. Yup barely fits in the garage so i can work on it daily. hehe
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Post by Kismet » 02 May 2012, 13:13

OK. Here we go. These shots are, variously, from after the second, third, and fourth scrubbing, debris removal, lichen scraping, and elimination of the general miniature wetland recreation program that the boat maintained over the last fifteen years of backyard exposure. I took no pictures of original state--it would be like viewing a highway accident.

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1955 Alumacraft Model A
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic ... 08&start=0
1959 Alumacraft Model F
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25386
1980 Alumacraft Model F7, 1955-56? Johnson 10hp
http://forum.tinboats.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35326
1956 Alumacraft Model RB
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39249

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Post by Bigkat650 » 02 May 2012, 13:33

Ahh the Alumacraft. Might be a '59? I think that was the year they went with the bracing from front to back. Nice looking boat there, and I would say a 9.9-15hp would be perfect!!
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Post by Kismet » 02 May 2012, 13:38

Last wash. This is stuff used by dairy farmers to clean the lines in their stainless steel milk lines. Contains both sulfuric and phosphoric acids. I DO NOT suggest anyone use this. I've read that after use of sulfuric acid washes, the acid continues to etch into the metal, and that a rinse of baking soda is necessary. But I had it around for many years, investigated other washes, and opted to apply it. I diluted it a LOT. I used gloves, and rinsed it many times. I didn't price it, but I'm sure it is much less expensive than some of the other washes. Anything someone does with it is at their own risk.

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So then, there we are today. I'm in pain. Takes longer for old men to recover from too much labor/repetitive motion. :) Moving this thing around, flipping it over, and general toting and fetching has had its toll on my joints and back.

I'm not going to paint the boat, nor am I going to try to bring it to a shine and then apply $160 Gatoraide...no, wait...Sharkhide, to cover the metal. Right now, the remnants of the interior deterioration have defeated me. I expect to rally, but not for a while. Doubt that I would "deck" it, but might put some wood/support platform between the seats. This is a little different from the boat that James did such a great job on. The ribs run longitudinally, not transversely. Should not need 2xs or such. I have no idea of the year of mfr. I've combed the transom and can find no stamped serial number on it.

I've got oar locks on order, and am looking around for some old oars to toss in there. Got an anchor. Will work on the transom; already have the spar urethane. A lot of stuff has been sealed on the boat. I will judiciously remove and repair them. Part of the boat's history is that it was cartopped up to Canada, with a boat buddy lifter. Dunno. I bought it from the 55 year old son of the owner.

Bow eye is almost worn through, and it is integral. I'll figure out something.

I blame James and Hanr, and others for this arriving at my shed. In fairness, they should come and fix it up for me. :wink:


Edit: On the transom BRACE is the serial # F20061.
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1955 Alumacraft Model A
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic ... 08&start=0
1959 Alumacraft Model F
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25386
1980 Alumacraft Model F7, 1955-56? Johnson 10hp
http://forum.tinboats.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35326
1956 Alumacraft Model RB
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39249

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Post by Kismet » 02 May 2012, 15:33

Bigkat650 wrote:Ahh the Alumacraft. Might be a '59? I think that was the year they went with the bracing from front to back. Nice looking boat there, and I would say a 9.9-15hp would be perfect!!
You're a BAD man, Bigkat.

Get thee behind me.


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1955 Alumacraft Model A
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic ... 08&start=0
1959 Alumacraft Model F
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25386
1980 Alumacraft Model F7, 1955-56? Johnson 10hp
http://forum.tinboats.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35326
1956 Alumacraft Model RB
http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39249

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Post by jigngrub » 02 May 2012, 19:26

The only other thing I see that needs doin' on that boat is the transom wood needs to be replaced.

A 197? 18 hp Johnson would be perfect on that boat, still lots of them around and you can usually find one for reasonable if you keep your eyes open.
Rum, wenches, and song... just another day on my boat.

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Post by Dman23 » 03 May 2012, 01:01

I have nearly the same boat, but mine is an f-7. You will love it, they are built like a tank for their size and weight. If your keeping the benches, a great idea is build floor sections for between them. Mine had those before i went all out on mine the past few months.

I wish i had a complete picture of my floor with the benches still in it, but here is a picture of my old floor. It worked very well. Some of the basic design concepts are: floor was notched for the ribs so each piece couldnt slide back and forth. Each piece was bigger than the actual space between the benches to minimize things falling under the floor. You had to stick one side in and under the bench so you could get the other side in and slide it forward on the opposite end of that particular piece. Took a little bit to jimmy each one in but it was nice having each piece go under the benches.

It was made of 3/4 inch plywood but also had a 1x3 going from side to side under for a little extra support on each end of each piece. These were not mounted to the boat in any way, just held in place by the rib cutouts which worked great.

The floor lasted about 20 years (as you see it in the picture its about 20 years old). Was easy to take out once or twice a year to hose off and clean each piece. Made the boat much quieter and easier to walk on and set stuff on a flat surface.

If you need any questions answered about my old design or my new one (link in my signature) feel free to message me. Ive spent most my life fishing out of this one boat so i know it pretty well.

That being said good luck and hope to hear lots of updates! Ive read most your other posts and i am rather enjoying your new obsession :-)
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Post by Johny25 » 03 May 2012, 03:27

Sounds like many of us are in the same BOAT...... :lol: I am bringing home a 21' Reniell on Saturday because a friend of mine's wife told him he needed to get rid of it. So for $150 bucks I got a boat that runs just fine with a 250 straight six I/O but I really don't need it. How could I say no though?!?! It is like a deer that shoots itself and then straps itself to the roof of your car, you got to take it home and eat it RIGHT?

So now I have 2 boats, 4 outboards (30hp, 30hp, 15hp, 6hp), 5 trolling motors including the bow mount on my 14' tin and misc fishing gear coming out the wazoo...... Still haven't told the wife about my most recent purchase since she is still cooling off from my last buy a month ago #-o

I need to sell this one though so I can justify my next purchase, which will be a 18-21' tin :lol: I am so glad there are others out there with the same sickness :P
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Post by MrSimon » 03 May 2012, 12:13

Kismet .... awesome awesome awesome!!!

You are living the dream man! Living the dream.

Excellent work cleaning up that boat. It looks fantastic.

If you work hard, keep your focus, and push yourself to the brink of exhaustion ..... maybe, just maybe, you could achieve the ultimate success of having multiple boats in various degrees of brokenness in your back yard simultaneously. Also, it is important to remember that you must have MORE broken outboards than broken boats at all times.

If you fail and end up with just one properly functioning boat and motor, your access to this forum will be revoked.
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