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Post by bassnbrian » 02 Oct 2009, 13:33

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Post by bassnbrian » 02 Oct 2009, 13:35

FYI dont know if its obvious in the plan but we will be removing the 2 middle benches and building the raised floors atop the 2 end benches.


please feel free to chime in with any input as this is all brand new to me.

(floor plan is not exact...just a rough idea. ...for example, I think the back platform may have to come forward another foot...and that will determine wether 1 or 2 seats in the middle is possible)

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Post by CRAPPIE_SLAYER » 02 Oct 2009, 13:39

Nice job on the paint. What kind of paint did you use?

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Post by G3_Guy » 02 Oct 2009, 13:44

That's a great looking boat with a nice paint job! I look forward to seeing more pics as the mods come along. =D>
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Post by bassnbrian » 02 Oct 2009, 13:47

CRAPPIE_SLAYER wrote:Nice job on the paint. What kind of paint did you use?

ummm....I used what the guy at the marine store handed me :P ...not at home at the moment so Im not sure.
Sorry.

As I said..this is all new to me lol

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Post by CarlF » 02 Oct 2009, 14:17

Nice boat and great paint job,

Im not to sure about your plan to remove both middle bench seats. I think you are going to have to add some bracing or other structural support to keep it from flexing too much in the middle.
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Post by bassnbrian » 02 Oct 2009, 16:00

I was concerned about lack of support also, but my machinist buddy looked under the benches and told me that from what he saw they didnt offer much support as they are, and so he feels they could be removed.
But from what you said and what I have read elsewhere here I will mention additional support again.
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Post by CarlF » 02 Oct 2009, 23:28

its not what they support under the benches, its the structural stability they add!
They keep the boat from "taco-ing", or flexing in & out under load & stress.
I havent seen to many 16' boats that comfortably fish 4, it will be tight.
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Post by Waterwings » 03 Oct 2009, 09:01

Nice rig! As CarlF mentioned above, 4 in a 16' boat is tight. My 16 ft'er states 4 on the tag, but there's no way I'd try it. Two people plus gear is comfortable, leaving room to move.
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Post by bassnbrian » 03 Oct 2009, 18:32

I have had 3 on it numerous times with no spacial difficulties so far, was hoping that opening up some room miht allow for another small person =)

I think my wife has her heart set on it being built for 4 to accomidate future little ones. So maybee instead of 2 removeable seats, we could put in one of the back to back style seats.

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Post by CarlF » 04 Oct 2009, 09:19

You & the wife and two younguns would be fine, especially just motoring around/panfishing.
I was thinking 4 adults, which would definately be tight.
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Post by danmyersmn » 04 Oct 2009, 09:48

Agreed, you will have no problem with 2 adults or 2 kids. 3 adults is easy as well. 4 adults will be pushing it--if for nothing else its hard to find fishing space. If you take your storage that you have on that one side and narrow it down and put it on both sides you will have your side support back. The seats are holding your sides in place so they do not fold in or out. By boxing the sides with the side storage area you will get that support back. That is, assuming you are going to attach the side storage to both an attached floor and the sides. Look at how CrappieSlayer is doing his. He is boxing the sides and the support should be darn strong.
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Post by bassnbrian » 05 Oct 2009, 22:14

heres another question regarding the issue of support.

There have been several mods I have seen on this forum where all benches have been removed from v hull boats and the only support added being beneath the flooring with aluminum or wood. And yet on those builds I havent seen much concern over tacoing...

I am trying to understand this concern since we will be keeping 2 seats (maybee 3 if I decide to keep the second from front bench) and removing 1 to 2 while adding support under the flooring.
As I said I am new to this but I dont get the concern when it seems like our build will have more support with the remaining seats and the underfloor support as apposed to the builds with just the underfloor support....Not trying to be rude here ....just trying to learn.

And If at all feasible I want to avoid storage on both sides since the boat is only 5 feet wide and storage on both sides would make moving around VERY difficult and cramped.

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Post by CRAPPIE_SLAYER » 06 Oct 2009, 07:42

Pretty new at all of this, but from the way I understand it, if you go by the plan you made one the first page I would think that the combination of the support along the floor and the storage area down the one side of the boat would eliminate any flexing. Again, I'm no pro, just my .02

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Post by danmyersmn » 06 Oct 2009, 08:40

CRAPPIE_SLAYER wrote:Pretty new at all of this, but from the way I understand it, if you go by the plan you made one the first page I would think that the combination of the support along the floor and the storage area down the one side of the boat would eliminate any flexing. Again, I'm no pro, just my .02
On the side you do not want to build a storage section you have your rod holders.
https://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ ... 916391.jpg

If you take the rod holders off and use a piece of 1x1x1/4 angle aluminium and run it from the point the top of the rod holders connect to the side and fasten it to the floor where the seat is connecting. You will retain your side support. Then you will mount your rod holders too the new aluminium angle. Another build on here has a picture like that. It has a paddle stored behind the rod holders. I just don't recall where the pic is. That may be an idea to consider. Plus watch crappie_slayers build. He has one heck of a nice side storage build going on. =D>

The reason that you see different comments about adding support, not adding support, etc. is that we each have our own ideas and thoughts on if the boat needs support or not. I don't believe we have any structural engineers that have done studies, nor do we have any proof of a boat actually tacoing. For myself, I would rather caution on the side of adding more support then needed. It would be terrible to do all the work only to scrap out your hull first time you need to get off a lake with rollers and whitecaps.

In the end we each need to decide how to customize and build the structure for our rigs, what materials to use, how much support, how thick, etc. etc. etc. This forum is great for seeing the trailblazer ahead of us. The final decision, however, is own ourselves.

I was going to build side storage all the way down the side of my rig. I then decided to build sides as narrow as possible (as narrow as I thought would give the support I wanted) and put them on both sides. I decided to fill these voids with foam instead of storage as well. The more I thought on it, narrow foam filled sides would give me support and floatation and I decided that was of more value then a wider run of storage on one side. I have other plans for storage that will be revealed as I build my rig and I am pretty sure I have figured out the best build for my rig and my goals.
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