Lowe 1436 + Trailer Mod (Page 2 Completed Pictures)

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Post by rmzachar » 19 Mar 2011, 23:00

Well, got the boat last July and have slowly been accumulating things for it over the past 9 months or so and am just now getting ready to start working on it. Finally!

Anyways, with the weather warming up for at least a couple days up here in Michigan, I got started on some work that needed to be done with the trailer. I had to remove the old bunks, rollers, and various other things to get it to where I wanted it to be. I still need to get a cross bunk and bow stop done up, but the bunks are at least now in place. Once I get the bow stop and cross bunk done I'll be carpeting it all.

(All images are clickable thumbnails) Album is here. Every picture I took is in there if you want to look at it.


The motor:

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Photos of the trailer when I got it:

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Boat sat on that setup horribly, so off came the old bunks and various hardware and in goes the new bunks. Took two 2x4's sealed up with Thompson's Waterseal and then screwed together. These were then countersunk with lag bolts to the trailer frame itself to test the fit and to make sure all my measurements worked out for the boat to sit in between strakes. It does just that and worked like a charm. Now just need to carpet them.

Measuring up:

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Attached to frame with boat on:

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Where the 2x4 sits in between the strakes:
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Forgot to take a picture of the winch arm up front, but plan on doing something similar to what Russ did on his 1236 build like this:

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So hopefully the bow stop and cross bunk will get done tomorrow followed by the carpeting. Anyone have any comments on anything else I should do for the trailer? I'm all ears on that one as this is my first go at this.

Once that gets done, I'll actually be getting to move on to working on the boat! It's a Lowe 1436 that I got from Cabela's last year after a tornado came in and scuffed it up a little bit. $300 for it brand new, so I bought it. Along with the boat and trailer, I also have bought a 20hp Mercury from I believe 1975 that runs great. Also bought a 70lb thrust (I know overkill for my boat but got a great deal on it) with iPilot from work (Cabela's, where I've gotten most of this stuff and a discount :D ). It's a 24V trolling motor, so I plan on putting the two batteries somewhere up front to help with weight distribution. Also got a Lowrance fish finder/gps to put on here too. If possible, I have an old head unit from my car and some speakers that I may or may not put in too. Anyways, still trying to get an idea on what to do with the boat.

The boat overhead view:

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Pretty much the only damage from the tornado, what would be the best way to fix this? Just smooth it out then put some duck boat paint over it??

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Most likely, I will be doing a combination of aluminum angle with plywood decking. Having a hard time though deciding on if I should cut out the bench seat and do a mod similar to dixie_boysles here :

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Or if I should go the route bassboy did with this mod here :

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Either way, I still have a little bit of time to decide as the lakes are still iced over for the most part and the weather is going to turn cold again in the next few days. Any input on what route to take with the boat would be appreciated. Thanks a lot!
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Post by rmzachar » 20 Mar 2011, 13:52

As far as a bow stop, this is how the boat currently sits up towards the front:

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Is the method that I said in my first post the best way to go about doing a bow stop for this?

Also, for the cross bunk, would a 2 foot piece of 2x4 work out fine? Or should it go higher, or is it even needed at all?

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Post by Ictalurus » 21 Mar 2011, 09:39

rmzachar wrote:Any input on what route to take with the boat would be appreciated.
I'd go with the low deck with a 36" bottom.

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Post by rmzachar » 22 Mar 2011, 23:31

I'll probably end up going with the low decks. I had been waiting for the ice to melt and to get out on the boat and just see how stable it is standing on top of the seats. Well, the ice finally melted out here a couple days ago, but the temperature has dropped down to the 30s again #-o . Might still try to get out and see, but I'm guessing low decks will be the way to go.

Anyways, finished up the trailer for the most part. Bunks are carpeted and attached as is the cross bunk. I kept the roller up at the bow for now to see how that works, but will probably make a horizontal bow stop out of a 2x4 still.

The carpeted bunks attached:

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The cross bunk carpeted and attached:

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The roller up front:

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Woo hoo, measurements came out perfect with the boat sitting right on the back end of the bunks when it's all winched up on the trailer:

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How bad is it to use the roller up front? I have a feeling that it will rub off that black paint or whatever that is on it onto the boat as well rub off some paint on the boat. Possible denting too? Or is it alright to use. I could probably find one at work that is more like a T with the flat end on the boat. If none of these are good solutions, I'll just go ahead and make a bow stop as I do have some more bunk carpet, and I think it would be pretty easy to attach up there.

Essentially though, the trailer is done and seems to work great. Now time for the actual boat modding to begin! Damn weather needs to warm up a little bit though as I don't have a heated garage to work in...

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Post by BassBlaster » 23 Mar 2011, 11:21

I went with a flat bow stop. I feel like a roller set up like you have there may allow the boat to bounce around a little and if you was to snug it up too much its going to start lifting the boat off your bunks and then your putting stress on the bow where it makes contacts with that roller. Check out my trailer rebuild for ideas on a solid bow stop. My bracket is home made out of a couple pieces of small angle and a steel gas line was used for the tube the bolt goes through. I didnt have a welder at the time so I paid a guy at the local muffler shop 10 bucks to weld it up. It works great and is a solid stop for the boat. Link in my sig.

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Post by rmzachar » 24 Mar 2011, 00:22

BassBlaster wrote:I went with a flat bow stop. I feel like a roller set up like you have there may allow the boat to bounce around a little and if you was to snug it up too much its going to start lifting the boat off your bunks and then your putting stress on the bow where it makes contacts with that roller. Check out my trailer rebuild for ideas on a solid bow stop. My bracket is home made out of a couple pieces of small angle and a steel gas line was used for the tube the bolt goes through. I didnt have a welder at the time so I paid a guy at the local muffler shop 10 bucks to weld it up. It works great and is a solid stop for the boat. Link in my sig.
Yeah, I'm thinking a horizontal bow stop would be the best way to go. I really don't care much for that roller, and seeing as I have all the stuff to make the horizontal bow stop I may as well do it.

Would the place where the roller is now be fine for where the bow stop would go?

Another question for anyone, if I do remove that front seat completely, do I really need to reinforce it? I have seen mods with people doing nothing and people reinforcing it. Also there is the method that RBuffordTJ did with the seat in cutting it down, but not completely out.

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Post by rmzachar » 24 Mar 2011, 00:43

Alright, this is what my general idea of what I want to do with the boat is. Mind you I did this in paint in like 10 minutes so it's not exactly the greatest, but it gives a decent look. Front bench seat would be removed...

Black = decking
red = trolling motor
blue = batteries below decking (2 for 24v trolling motor, 1 for all else)
orange = seats
yellow = motor/gas tank
red = fish finder
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Post by rmzachar » 24 Mar 2011, 18:55

Rigged up a quick test for a front bow stop, and I must say that it works much much better then the roller that was on there. This isn't the permanent attachment of it, nor is it carpeted yet, but it works out great and the boat seems much more secure with it on there. Just need to come up with a better way of attaching it to the frame then those 2x4's that I put on to test the fit...

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Post by BassBlaster » 24 Mar 2011, 22:11

Thats definately better than what you had but if at all poosible it needs to be above the handle that your hooked too so its pulling the boat against a solid stop. The way you have it there, the boat will still want to lift off the bunks if you crank it up to far.

A little more like this.

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Heres a close up of the bracket that I made. Pretty simple.

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Post by rmzachar » 24 Mar 2011, 22:54

BassBlaster wrote:Thats definately better than what you had but if at all poosible it needs to be above the handle that your hooked too so its pulling the boat against a solid stop. The way you have it there, the boat will still want to lift off the bunks if you crank it up to far.]
I had tried to come up with a way to have the winch lower then the bow stop, but the holes were already in place on the winch post as it is and I figured I would try to leave it the way it is if at all possible. Also, with the winch cranked all the way as far as it can go, the boat still sits flat on the bunks and right at the back edge of the bunks. The current setup seems solid, but what I am concerned most with in this setup is if the winch fails and I slam on the breaks for whatever reason, nothing is there to stop the boat from flying into the bed of my truck. Would another simple tie down up at the front of the boat be good enough to keep the boat secure in a catastrophic even like that? Or is it just a better idea to redo the winch post with the bow stop higher and the winch itself lower?

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Post by BassBlaster » 25 Mar 2011, 19:09

Personnaly I would redo that whole contraption up front. There has got to be a way to modify the one that is currently there though and make it work. I just cant think of a solution off the top of my head right now. Your winch looks like it is at the level it needs to be though so I'd leave it there and just try and come up with some bracket that would work above it. Dosnt look like you have a whole lot of room above it to work with though. I'll post back if I think of something.

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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 25 Mar 2011, 19:17

This is how I have mine set up.
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Post by rmzachar » 25 Mar 2011, 22:37

BassBlaster wrote:Personnaly I would redo that whole contraption up front. There has got to be a way to modify the one that is currently there though and make it work. I just cant think of a solution off the top of my head right now. Your winch looks like it is at the level it needs to be though so I'd leave it there and just try and come up with some bracket that would work above it. Dosnt look like you have a whole lot of room above it to work with though. I'll post back if I think of something.
I'm going to take another look at it tomorrow and see about moving the bracket that currently is holding onto the 2x4. I'm thinking I may have enough clearance to move that up while still keep the winch in between the bracket.

This picture here shows where the bracket currently is mounted (look at where the holes are at, it's bolted on through those) :

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I'm thinking I can move that up and still, hopefully, have enough clearance for the winch handle to still operate. Won't know for sure until I look at it, but hoping I can move the bracket up, have the bow stop be above the winch, and have the winch go through the opening in between the bracket.

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Post by BassBlaster » 26 Mar 2011, 00:25

I think your idea will work as long as you have clearance on your crank as you said. I mounted my winch and you can see in my pic I had to move it because I wasnt paying attention to clearance. The mechanism that flips to allow the winch to change directions didnt have enough room to flip. Had to drill new holes so now I have a set of bolt holes that are useless showing just below my winch.

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Post by rmzachar » 29 Mar 2011, 19:40

Alright, moved the winch down a little bit, the winch post back a little bit, and now I think all is well. Now to actually start getting some work done on the boat itself!

The little bracket I found at the local hardware store:

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Bow stop attached to the bracket:

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Bow stop on the winch post (just need to bolt it down):

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Next thing on the to do list is to cut out the bench seat in the boat...that's going to be a bit nerve racking on a new boat!

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