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Post by Y_J » 17 Jun 2014, 02:08

Ok. Gonna go ahead and get this thread started.
I recently purchased and old beat up 12' (actually 11' 5") tin boat and a Gamefisher 3.5 HP OB. The motor tried to start but would soon choke out and the boat its self has been pretty abused and I think some of that abuse came from a semi small tree falling on it. No trailer as yet but I'm looking on CL and eBay. Here are a few pics of what I had acquired. BTW I got them knowing it was a project boat for only $150.00

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Thought I had a couple pics of the motor in there but that will have to come tomorrow or so. The motor wasn't working but after giving the carb a cleaning she started up kind of rough at first but as the fresh fuel flowed thru it got better. One problem I need to address is that the idle jet doesn't seem to do anything at all so I think I need to pull that out and try to clean it up. It also needs a new float bowl gasket as it leaks just a touch.

I've been trying to use some boards and C-clamps to straighten out some of the dents on the boat and need to repair the splits in 3 or 4 places on the gunnels and top center of the aluminum on the transom. The boards and C-clamps aren't doing much of any good.

I want to add a relatively low deck up on the bow to the back of the front bench, probably level with the bench but that will only be for hatch to store the anchor, PFDs, ropes, etc. I'm also going to put a flat floor in but add some of the pink foam under that.

So there ya'll have it. That's what I have to work with. I live on a VA disability pension right now but eventually want a longer wider tin boat and a larger motor.
I have absolutely no idea what make or year the boat it but I know it's old. No HIN anywhere on it but there is a 5 digit serial number stamped on the inside upper right (looking aft) of the transom. So I'm told, by the DNR that I need to start the registration process and have a hull inspection, so in July that's going to get done.

What ever thoughts, ideas, or input ya'll might have, I'm all ears. I need all the help I can get as this will be my first ever project on a boat.
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Post by fool4fish1226 » 17 Jun 2014, 06:23

Do a leak test and then address the leaks if any. I then would put that motor on and go fishing to see how you like it mod from there. Good luck!!!!! :beer:
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Post by Y_J » 17 Jun 2014, 23:36

fool4fish1226 » 17 Jun 2014, 06:23 wrote:Do a leak test and then address the leaks if any. I then would put that motor on and go fishing to see how you like it mod from there. Good luck!!!!! :beer:
Already a done deal. It's not registered just yet. Got to wait till the 1st to get the $$ for it. A friend of mine and I put it in the back of my truck and went to a small lake and put her in, put on the motor and took a cruse once around the lake (it's about 2 miles long and half a mile wide. LOL one thing for sure, with that 3.5 hp motor it sure ain't gonna win no races. We could find not one single leak. Packed her back up and came home. But you can bet, once that registration is in, IT BE FISHIN' TIME!
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Post by Y_J » 18 Jun 2014, 01:39

Here is a small update from last nights post. Adding a couple pics of the OB and one of the sanding I've been doing on the bench seats, so far.

ImageGamefisher 3.5 HP - z20D35956 by Herb Dunn (YosemiteJunkie), on Flickr

ImageGamefisher 3.5 HP - z20D35957 by Herb Dunn (YosemiteJunkie), on Flickr

ImageTin Boat Sanding - z20D35960 by Herb Dunn (YosemiteJunkie), on Flickr

So, I took off the old junk wood from the transom and will be putting on New Aluminum Diamond Plate on the outside and new marine wood on the inside. After that it should be stout enough to handle what ever OB upgrade I put on there (within reason). Was thinking of a 9.9 HP and a transom mount TM.

I've also started sanding on the bench seats but that is slow going since for the time being all I've got is a small orbital sander. I'll be getting a disk sander along with brass wire brush for it in August. That should make things go a bit faster. Then I'll be able to prime and paint, both, the inside and outside. I do know the inside will be a lighter color plus I'll be adding a wood slat floor to make it flat.

I welcome any input, comments, critiques, or ideas.
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Post by bobby_r67 » 18 Jun 2014, 20:23

I have an 80's Myers 14 footer. Looking forward to see your progress.
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Post by Y_J » 19 Jun 2014, 00:49

Thank you, Bobby. I know for right now it's kind of a slow going cause the $$ just isn't there for supplies and tools. But come Aug. it's on, unless I'm fishing :)
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Post by Y_J » 19 Jun 2014, 22:57

Is anyone aware of any "aftermarket" Gunnel tracks that are not abusive to the eyes? The past couple of days I have done extensive internet searches and just not coming up with anything that I like. But then there really isn't that much out there that I've been able to find.
Today I kind of started contemplating the idea of fashioning my own but not to sure just how well that might work out. But got a couple ideas floating around in my head.
Any ideas or thought or your wisdom is surely welcome
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Post by Y_J » 28 Jun 2014, 01:38

Got a couple of tool type questions for ya'll. I'm getting ready to purchase and Angle Grinder and a Riveter. Based on your experience for working on these tin boats, what size do ya'll recommend to double duty as a grinder and polisher? I looked at some at Harbor Freight today and I'm not to thrilled with what I saw. All they had as far as any power tools goes were of "Chicago Electric" brand and I've never even heard of that brand name. But they did have sizes from 4" up to about 8".

Question 2: I wanted to get a Riveter but not to sure about just what to get. I've never used one before so that is new territory to me. Do the hand riveters work ok or should I be looking for a powered model? I'll need to go thru at least 1/2" of wood (and washer), the transom aluminum, and 1/8" diamond plate aluminum. Should I put the diamond plate outside the transom and wood inside? or visa versa? And what type of rivets should I be using?

Looking for your experience here and any ideas you might have. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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Post by shu2kill » 09 Jul 2014, 23:11

suscribed since i have one very similar to that one....

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Post by Y_J » 10 Jul 2014, 23:54

shu2kill » July 9th, 2014, 11:11 pm wrote:suscribed since i have one very similar to that one....
Great. You don't happen to know what make of boat it is would ya? I've been trying to figure this one out ever since I got it.
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Post by shu2kill » 14 Jul 2014, 22:17

Y_J » 10 Jul 2014, 23:54 wrote:
shu2kill » July 9th, 2014, 11:11 pm wrote:suscribed since i have one very similar to that one....
Great. You don't happen to know what make of boat it is would ya? I've been trying to figure this one out ever since I got it.
sorry, i cant help you on that. according to my dad, this boat was purchased by my granddad when he (my father) was about 10 years old... my dad is now 53, so, the boat is about 45 years old...

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Post by Y_J » 14 Jul 2014, 22:59

Pretty darn close but not the same. Mine has rounded gunwales and gets slightly narrower towards the stern.
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Post by Y_J » 24 Jul 2014, 00:37

Ok.. Small update here.
A few days ago I made a trip to Harbor Freight, and picked up a 4 1/2" angle grinder, some cut-off wheels that where on sale, and a SS 4 1/2" SS brush for paint removal. Been working on that the last couple of days. Then today I picked up an 1800 PSI Pressure washer to make sure all is CLEAN. Next up will be the Hull inspection slated to this Sat. the 26th of July to acquire an HID # and more info on the boat itself.

The past few nights I've spent several hours researching to figure out just what kind of boat this is. Make, Model, etc.
Last night I came to the conclusion that it was a Sears Gamefisher. 11' 5" fishing utility boat. Based on photo comparisons, focusing on the actual length, and the length of the splash guard, # of bench seats, and the transom bracing style and the fact that there is no drain plug in the transom.

So far I've got the gunnels sanded down to bare aluminum and most of the bench seats done. (working on the insides.) then I'll spray a couple coats of Self etching primer on the inside and start grinding on the outside. Along with that the plan is to use marine plywood and put in a flat floor with insulation foam from Home Depot under that. A small deck up on the bow, with a hatch door for storage of the TM battery, anchor, and life jackets, and ropes. I'm thinking to take that the height of 3 or 4 inches below the top of the gunnels. All for storage area.

I was planing on putting a bilge pump back by the transom and yesterday started thinking of maybe a PVC tube thru the transom brace and thru the transom and put a drain plug in that. What are the thoughts on that from ya'll???
Shall I put that in the center or maybe off to the side of the transom bracing (no tube required)? Or, I could put one on each side of the bracing.

Also, I'm thinking of a tachometer that can clamp onto the spark plug wire of the OB Motor. (at least for the time being). Any ideas as to what kind and where I can find one like that?

In the next few days I'll add some update photos to give you an idea of the progress.
As always, thanks for any input and thoughts you can add here. I greatly appreciate any help I can get. This is my first rebuild but trying my my best to learn from ya'll.
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Post by Timtactical » 24 Jul 2014, 00:52

I would install a drain plug, but I wouldn't plug the bilge pump. You want that to run out above the water level normally out the side of the boat.

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