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Post by monriverguy » 11 Nov 2014, 11:56

Hello to everyone out there and thanks for all advise in advance.

I just got my second Lone Star boat a 18 ft 1959 Eldorado, and it needs lots of TLC and then some. The transom was tore out by PO. Silicone smeared all over the in side at the seams and the stringer's. And the paint on the bottom is nearly down to bare. I will post pic's on here tonight if i can. My question is where do you all think i should start to see if this old gal can be saved? i have tore out the flooring and the sides and have filled her up part way with water so far just 3-4 leaks around rivets. How far can i fill her up safely?

And once again thanks to all( i really love the way this tinner looks)

John

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Post by Kismet » 11 Nov 2014, 15:42

I really love the way this tinner looks

You answered your own question. With love in the equation, rational thinking goes by the way-side.

Be safe, have fun, don't keep receipts.

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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 11 Nov 2014, 17:20

Fill with water up to the waterline.
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Post by TexasLoneStar56 » 14 Nov 2014, 23:55

Kismet wrote:
I really love the way this tinner looks

You answered your own question. With love in the equation, rational thinking goes by the way-side.

Be safe, have fun, don't keep receipts.

=D>
What Kismet said! :)

We,too, have an old LS. A '56. I've been working on her since July. All you need is the want to, a few kind words and a little patience. She'll be worth it when you see her on the water for the first time! 8) Post pics!

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Post by jigngrub » 15 Nov 2014, 10:27

When filling a boat with water for a leak test, watch your trailer tires to judge the weight load.

The easiest long lasting way to fix leaky rivets is like this:

Rum, wenches, and song... just another day on my boat.

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Post by monriverguy » 18 Nov 2014, 00:10

OK a few more questions, Where can you get rivets like that, Where can you get the rivet gun at ? and what kinda of epoxy was that i thought everyone used 3m 5200 to seal the rivets.

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Post by jigngrub » 18 Nov 2014, 07:59

You can buy the rivets here:
https://www.rivetsonline.com/rivets-en/b ... ivets.html
You can buy the setting tool there too, or you can get one from Harbor Freight for $20.

You can get Loc-tite marine epoxy from Home Depot or Wal-Mart... or you can use 5200, but 5200 is thinner and runnier/messier.
Rum, wenches, and song... just another day on my boat.

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Post by monriverguy » 21 Nov 2014, 14:13

OK thanks all for the advice and encouragement so far, so here is the question , The PO put silicone on all the rivets and seams on the inside of the boat, I have the floor removed and plan on putting in the new transom, so far i have only found 3-4 leaks mainly in the rear of the boat? do i just leave the silicone on? do i try to still wire brush it off and replace with glove it? And it looks like it is stuck on there very well..

Thanks again to all.......

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Post by TexasLoneStar56 » 21 Nov 2014, 22:09

Don't use a steel wire brush. It will leave it's bristles behind, causing rust later. Instead, use a brass brush. I used a brass brush on a drill. Worked pretty good. Then, I drilled out the rivets and went back with new rivets. No leaks.

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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 21 Nov 2014, 22:44

TexasLoneStar56 wrote:Don't use a steel wire brush. It will leave it's bristles behind, causing rust later. Instead, use a brass brush. I used a brass brush on a drill. Worked pretty good. Then, I drilled out the rivets and went back with new rivets. No leaks.

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Post by TexasLoneStar56 » 21 Nov 2014, 22:51

lckstckn2smknbrls wrote:
TexasLoneStar56 wrote:Don't use a steel wire brush. It will leave it's bristles behind, causing rust later. Instead, use a brass brush. I used a brass brush on a drill. Worked pretty good. Then, I drilled out the rivets and went back with new rivets. No leaks.

Keith
Stainless steel and nylox wheels are safe on aluminum.
I did not know, or realize that. Thanks! :wink:
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Post by monriverguy » 24 Nov 2014, 19:52

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Thanks for all the great tips got a brass wire brush tried it out i got many hours of grinding ahead of me.........
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Post by monriverguy » 24 Nov 2014, 19:54

sorry all wrong pictures new to this site i will try again

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Post by monriverguy » 24 Nov 2014, 20:05

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ok here is what i am facing any help much appreciated......
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Post by monriverguy » 18 Dec 2014, 09:39

OK all been busy here but got the transom cut ,glued, and coated with spar.. took it home and it fits real nice.. MY first transom..... :D
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