1956 Johnson QD-17 Project NEW QUESTIONS

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Post by BassBlaster » 15 Mar 2011, 19:36

I have gotten several requests for updates on the outboard I just purchaced so I thought I would start a project thread for it where I can update my progress. I have a trailer project thread and boat project thread, might as well have a motor project thread too, lol. This is a 1956 Johnson Sea Horse 10 HP, Mod. QD-17.
This thing is completely original and in amazing condition. My original plan was to buy an old motor so I could paint it to match the boat which I had planned to do in a camo pattern. I never dreamed I was gonna buy an old motor that looks like this so there is no way I'm painting this thing!! It looks so good it actually has me reconsidering my plan to camo the boat. Might look strange with a bright red outboard hanging off the back of it. I dunno. I'm open to suggestions in that department. What would look good?

So, heres what I'm starting with. It currently dosnt run but there isnt a single reason it shouldnt so I'll begin fixing her up in the next few days and I'll update my progress here.

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Post by BassBlaster » 15 Mar 2011, 19:41

This is the current state of the ignition system. A guy on another forum that rebuilds these old things confirmed these are all original parts and says it was very common for the coils to be in that condition. I ordered lots of new parts that should be here before the weekend. New coils, condensors, points, plugs, plug wires, card rebuild kit with updated plastic float and a water pump rebuild kit. Hopefully that should be all I need to get her going. I did notice a wee bit of oil on the lower unit today so I may be ordering a lower unit seal kit and rebuilding that as well. Hopefully the next update will be a video of her running!!

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Post by lckstckn2smknbrls » 15 Mar 2011, 19:42

OMG thats pretty.
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Post by jellio5 » 16 Mar 2011, 00:49

Just an FYI for future reference you can also get all the parts for these threw Napa usually much cheaper than an outboard dealer. I did my 1958 last year and the coils on those motors usually are always junk. I would suggest to change the impeller and make sure when you change the impeller you replace the oring on the shaft or you'll get water in the lower unit. Also make sure you check over the orings/gaskets on the tank if there bad it will lose pressure and cause you a bunch of headache's.

Not to high jack your thread but here's my resto.

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Post by Bobg » 16 Mar 2011, 07:59

Beautiful machine you've got there. Was there a gas tank with it?

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Post by BassBlaster » 16 Mar 2011, 08:37

Your restore looks good!! I went to NAPA. They sell Sierra parts. The same Sierra parts were considerably cheaper on iboats even with the cost of shipping and would have taken the same amount of time to get here. I got a complete water pump rebuild kit coming nit just the impellpr. Its everything but the housing. I didnt get new o rings for the fuel connections. If they are bad I'm just gonna order a complete tank repair kit.

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Post by BassBlaster » 16 Mar 2011, 08:39

Yes Bob, it came with a tank thats in good shape as well. It pumps up and holds pressure. I need to replace the old lines on it. I saw these tanks selling on Ebay in worse condition for 150 to 200 bucks.

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Post by BassBlaster » 16 Mar 2011, 17:52

All my parts came today except the carb float. I got the ignition system rebuilt and got the water pump rebuilt. As soon as I locate a torque wrench so I can torque the flywhel nut, I'll try and get her started. I'm still gonna rebuild the carb though.

Heres the new ignition system. Looks much better than the old stuff!!

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Post by Brine » 16 Mar 2011, 18:38

Awesome looking motor. Looks like you know your way around it too. Looking forward to seeing some action footage of this one.

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Post by Pappy » 16 Mar 2011, 19:13

Points set at .020? You should just barely feel any drag with the feeler ga. and you should never see the points arm move at all when inserting or removing the feeler ga.

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Post by BassBlaster » 16 Mar 2011, 20:02

Yeppers, got em set. I got it all back together. Rebuilt the water pump and changed the lower unit oil. Put some fresh gas and oil in the tank. I dont know when this thing was last running or even started for that matter. She fired right up on the third pull!! Runs beautifully at idle, just as smooth as can be. Higher rpm's are a little rough and it feels like I should have a lot more throttle. Gonna rebuild the carb this weekend and see what happens.

Heres a video of her running though...

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Post by BassBlaster » 16 Mar 2011, 20:15

I have some oil oozing out of this hole on the side. (see pic) Should it be coming from there and if not how do I correct it?

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Post by Pappy » 16 Mar 2011, 21:40

That is fine for a little bit of stuff to come out of there. that is pretty much open to exhaust. When the engine was running rough it was probably a little rich and you will get stuff coming out of the engine for the next day or so.

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Post by BassBlaster » 16 Mar 2011, 21:56

Brine wrote:Awesome looking motor. Looks like you know your way around it too. Looking forward to seeing some action footage of this one.
Not really, just spent alot of time reading manuals and reading threads at iboats. I'm learning though. This one seems pretty straight forward to work on though.

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Post by cajuncook1 » 16 Mar 2011, 22:06

Very nice fine.....I'm jealous!!!

Please use fuel to oil ratio of 24:1 Please Please don't let someone talk you into using something leaner. They will say with today's oil that are superior that you can go leaner.

Today's oils are superior, but use the original factory suggested ratio of 24:1. It will insure longevity of your motor and you can also use synthetic oil TWC-3 2cycle oil. It cuts down on smoke and it is biodegradable.

Congrats on such a fine motor!!!

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