My Walleye Project - 70's Sea Nymph SS160 1668

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Post by jvanhees » 24 Mar 2013, 17:35

Hi and thanks to all of you for your build threads!!!!!...as I have been learning a ton so far. The wealth of knowledge on this sight is invaluable! I am a new member, Jared, and have just picked up my new walleye boat...a 70's Sea Nymph SS160 1668.

Picked this up on CL for $600 with the trailer, not a bad deal but it is gutted fully and in need of a total rebuild. Kinda glad it is already gutted after some of the threads I have seen so far....I think it is a pretty solid boat, and is just what I am looking for to walleye fish. I am not sure of the year, as the tag and registration do not specify......ideas?

This boat came with the 2 original live wells, the rod locker peice that fold down over the rods, the side console piece, and another piece I am not sure of. I will also be selling my bass/duck mod v to fund this project . Below are a couple pics to start... thank you in advance for all of your help!

Things I would like to add/modify:

-Front deck with storage for 2 batteries and livewell
-New foot controlled trolling motor
-Side console for console motor - Or maybe tiller I am not sure yet
-New transem
-Restore the trailer
-Outboard - 25 HP ish
-Pedestals / Seats
-New Floor & Foam
-Truck bed liner, gluvit, carpet - not sure
-Radio, aux input, lights
-Bilge
-I am sure there will be more. I would like to take my time on this, and do everything the correct way...which is why I am here! Any and all input encouraged.
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Post by jvanhees » 24 Mar 2013, 17:39

Well i wanted to see the bottom so my dad and i got it off the trailer today. Boat has all of this crap on it from someone trying to seal it..it is all of the brown stuff.....
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so we started burning and scraping it off
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The seal here (above) does leak, as I found little ice sicles here....how would you go about sealing this? Welding? 5200? This is the back of the boat where the drain plug is. I will need to re-seal this entire area, along with the front keel.
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Post by jvanhees » 24 Mar 2013, 17:42

We found a couple spots that will need welding.
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And the trailer
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Post by jvanhees » 24 Mar 2013, 17:48

First couple questions...what is the best way to get all of this junk off of the seals & rivets? a stripper product or heat & wire brush?

Once this is all removed, how would you reseal it.
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Post by Pweisbrod » 24 Mar 2013, 19:22

The rear area near drain plug, and bow any other area that doesn't clearly need welding: I would re-buck those rivets. there's lots of info on here about that, search it out. basically somebody holds a sledgehammer tight to the rivet on the outside and the guy on the inside whacks it with an air hammer or a small hammer, that's my understanding anyway. I'd also goop it up with 3m 5200 or weld it. it looks like you have a torch in the picture, so hts 2000 might be a good option instead of paying a welder. Totally your call.

looks like a great project. my boat will be a part time walleye rig as well, so I love the walleye builds.

Good luck, I'll be poking my head in every so often!

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Post by hsiftac » 25 Mar 2013, 00:28

as already said, rebuck first and see how that helps. A couple options for resealing are gluvit and steelflex. A lot of people apply gluvit to the inside of the boat on the seams and rivets. Steelflex is usually applied on the outside (a lot of people on here use steelflex) but I believe it takes a bit of prep work.

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Post by walleyejoe » 25 Mar 2013, 08:32

jvanhees wrote:First couple questions...what is the best way to get all of this junk off of the seals & rivets? a stripper product or heat & wire brush?

Once this is all removed, how would you reseal it.
I used a wire wheel on a grinder .It took every thing right off fairly easy. I didn't really have any real bad spots to fix. I just used self etching prime then painted it .
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Post by jvanhees » 25 Mar 2013, 08:58

Pweisbrod, thanks for the input...I will try the rivet rebucking, why not. Does that aluminum weld rod stuff really work? I have read a bunch online about how it is a gimmick/cant get the surrounding metal hot enough/sucks...? Alumaloy for instance, they make it look so easy in their videos. Btw, I like your lund, and will be watching that build!


Hsiftac, I will be putting something down on the inside and outside. There is alot of info on the gluvit and steelflex on this site, just not sure (from inexperiece) if that will be enough for a "seal" to waterproof the inside of the boat? Of if you are just "helping" leaky rivets? PLease advise here.


Walleye Joe, I wasnt going to coat the entire outside of the boat, just rivets/seams below the WL and new paint above the water....but yours looks really nice, and now I think I may. Once I apply whatever I will use: 5200/gluvit/steel flex, going over it with a primer and paint may not be a bad idea to protect it more? Or maybe I dont need to? either way it looks much better than the bottom of mine...


Thanks for all the input. I also found out that the SS160 was only made in '76, 77, 78...narrowing it down.
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Post by walleyejoe » 25 Mar 2013, 09:10

jvanhees wrote:Pweisbrod, thanks for the input...I will try the rivet rebucking, why not. Does that aluminum weld rod stuff really work? I have read a bunch online about how it is a gimmick/cant get the surrounding metal hot enough/sucks...? Alumaloy for instance, they make it look so easy in their videos. Btw, I like your lund, and will be watching that build!


Hsiftac, I will be putting something down on the inside and outside. There is alot of info on the gluvit and steelflex on this site, just not sure (from inexperiece) if that will be enough for a "seal" to waterproof the inside of the boat? Of if you are just "helping" leaky rivets? PLease advise here.
I found myself over thinking every thing I did on my prodject . It seemed like I aways went back to the first think I wanted to do .Im almost done with mine now I,m pretty happy with what I've done . I can't wait to get on the water . Good luck with yours I'll be watchin :beer:

Walleye Joe, I wasnt going to coat the entire outside of the boat, just rivets/seams below the WL and new paint above the water....but yours looks really nice, and now I think I may. Once I apply whatever I will use: 5200/gluvit/steel flex, going over it with a primer and paint may not be a bad idea to protect it more? Or maybe I dont need to? either way it looks much better than the bottom of mine...


Thanks for all the input. I also found out that the SS160 was only made in '76, 77, 78...narrowing it down.
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Post by jvanhees » 25 Mar 2013, 14:20

Well, took Joe's advice. Went to Harbor Freight and bought a angle grinder and cup wire brush...will be attacking the old sealant asap. Might throw some paint thinner on there a day ahead of time...what the heck
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Post by jvanhees » 26 Mar 2013, 12:05

Ok, so I think I have an order of things that are going to be done first...yell it me if I seem out of order.

1) Strip & wirebrush bottom of boat completely clean
2) Get obvious cracks welded
3) Leak test for rivets that need rebucking (maybe switch 2 & 3)
4) Rebuck the rivets that leaked, and leak test again
5) Drill out remaining leaking rivets and replace with new pop rivets & 5200
6) Leak test once more
7) Steel flex the entire bottom up the bumper ribs on the sides of the boat
8) Move to interior - which may include Gluv-it or somthing over the rivets....not sure yet

I really just want to do this right so I never have to worry about it.
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Post by walleyejoe » 26 Mar 2013, 12:28

jvanhees wrote:Ok, so I think I have an order of things that are going to be done first...yell it me if I seem out of order.

1) Strip & wirebrush bottom of boat completely clean
2) Get obvious cracks welded
3) Leak test for rivets that need rebucking (maybe switch 2 & 3)
4) Rebuck the rivets that leaked, and leak test again
5) Drill out remaining leaking rivets and replace with new pop rivets & 5200
6) Leak test once more
7) Steel flex the entire bottom up the bumper ribs on the sides of the boat
8) Move to interior - which may include Gluv-it or somthing over the rivets....not sure yet

I really just want to do this right so I never have to worry about it.
Sounds good to me .Let me know how the steel flex works out I almost used it :mrgreen:
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Post by PitFishin' » 26 Mar 2013, 17:02

Well this just made my day! first off :WELCOME: I believe we may have the same boat, which i haven not been able to find another one that is just like mine. The title says mines a '76 but I really do not know. do you have any pics of the inside? if so id really like to see them even tho you said it was stripped already. also what do the livewells look like. mine didn't have any in it when i bought it, and that's what I'm trying to figure out now. you can check out my thread, but its not up to date. I gave 1000 for mine, it came with a 80's 70hp merc, and a 46# foot controlled motorguide. I started stripping it as soon as I got it home. I just used cup brushes on a grinder, I think i may have went thru 4 or 5 after doing the inside and the bottom. then i steelflexed it, still might use gluvit on the inside. I didn't have any keel damage, but I had 178 holes to weld shut in the hull where someone shot screws thru to carry the decks they put in. I tried the alumilloy with no success, it kept warping everything before it was hot enough to do anything so i gave up. we used a tig welder. piece of advice if your going to weld, use a piece of copper as a backer it works wonders filling holes.
...I'd rather be fishin'...
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Post by jvanhees » 26 Mar 2013, 17:28

PitFishin' wrote:Well this just made my day! first off :WELCOME: I believe we may have the same boat, which i haven not been able to find another one that is just like mine. The title says mines a '76 but I really do not know. do you have any pics of the inside? if so id really like to see them even tho you said it was stripped already. also what do the livewells look like. mine didn't have any in it when i bought it, and that's what I'm trying to figure out now. you can check out my thread, but its not up to date. I gave 1000 for mine, it came with a 80's 70hp merc, and a 46# foot controlled motorguide. I started stripping it as soon as I got it home. I just used cup brushes on a grinder, I think i may have went thru 4 or 5 after doing the inside and the bottom. then i steelflexed it, still might use gluvit on the inside. I didn't have any keel damage, but I had 178 holes to weld shut in the hull where someone shot screws thru to carry the decks they put in. I tried the alumilloy with no success, it kept warping everything before it was hot enough to do anything so i gave up. we used a tig welder. piece of advice if your going to weld, use a piece of copper as a backer it works wonders filling holes.

Pit thanks for the welcome and the good advise about what you have done/tried! I'll get some pics of the inside.. Also got ur PM. That is a lot of holes.
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Post by Flat Bottom » 27 Mar 2013, 03:06

Hey man, great looking start you have there, if re bucking the rivets doesnt seal her up I would recommend jb weld over leaking rivets, hell I would just put jb weld on em period clean the area well and just put about a quarter size covering on each rivet. I swear by the stuff. You can use it on cracks or whatever, sometimes you have to be creative in your application like building little dams to pool it up where you want it etc... it has yet to let me down.
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