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Benches are a sign of a frenzied mind totaly devoid of imagination and appreciation for functional beauty. And you can quote me. My center bench has become intolerable. What more can I say. Jerry

Giggles, thanks for your succinct explanation of "deadrise". On my own, It took me over an hour to get to where you got me in about 15 seconds. This forum has been sooooo helpful. I have spent a lot of my life "in the thick of thin things" when I should have or maybe, could have been...

Ryan, I would love the stability of your boat as two of us will be fly fishing out of the Fish Hawk a lot, which is often done standing up, right, but a mile or so each way in fairly heavy chop in a flat bottom boat for a guy who is just slightly younger than dirt would be a test of his (my)...

I am considering purchasing an older 1650 fish hawk. Do you know what the deadrise is on your fish hawk? Jerry

Weldorthemag and Giggles. The counsel is good. A test drive sounds like the right thing to do for sure but at this time of year where the boat is, water is becoming a solid. i just fiddled with the idea of buying the boat for too long and really hadnt thought about a test drive until you...

An addendum, the Crestliner is a 1998 1650 fish hawk which has a beam approximating 72" Jerry

Thanks for your oppinions. Is the fish hawk considered a deep V hull? I have a bunch of windy high altitude lakes (6K ft) to fish, someone has o do it, and I have felt good about the response of the u14 Valco to the high frequency wave patterns and I dont know if the wider and longer Fish hawk...

I have found a 1998 crestliner 1650 fish hawk with a 20 hp 4 stroke Merc with open passage one end to the other. If I elect not to modify my u14 valco as we have been talking about and purchase the crestliner do any of you have an opinion about the 20 hp merc being grossly underpowered for the...

DaleH, I appreciate your sticking with me on this. Those who have responded have all brought me closer to where I need to be on maintaining the integrity of the sidewalls of this boat on the way to making me a safe passage way from stern to bow. I appreciate your intensity, DaleH. Jerry

thanks for the responses. The solutions look good to me and are well illustrated. I think we can do that. Jerry

Nytebyt, U R awesome. I will fly that past my helecopter mechanic and fishing partner. Never pass up an opportunity to partner up with a helecopter mechanic, they are useful and inovative souls. Try to find one that enjoys fly rods, indicator fishing and large trout. Did I spell your name...

Thank you Waldor. Hadnt intered my mind to do that but then not much does. Jerry

Thank you DaleH. I will not remove the full seat BUT what if i only remove a two ft section from the middle of the seat. This would allow ample passage for my big feet. The seat is viveted to the bottom of the Valco. After removing the rivets from a two ft section of the middle of the seat...

Boat is a 1976 u14 Valco 62 inch beam with 3 bench seats. Will removing the middle seat compromise the integrity of the boat in a significant way? I am 83 and dont like to step over the beach when i move around in the boat because of a compromised balance system incident to age. Jerry

Boat is a 1976 u14 Valco 62 inch beam with 3 bench seats. Will removing the middle seat compromise the integrity of the boat in a significant way? I am 83 and dont like to step over the beach when i move around in the boat because of a compromised balance system incident to age. Jerry