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onthewater102
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 Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 10:07 |
Joined: 15 Mar 2014, 16:57 Posts: 1980 Location: CT
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Watched a bit of youtube on the Phantom and called them to confirm they have 7075 aluminum used for the helical main drive gear!!! Most of the other internal parts are metal as well, very impressive looking.
Far better construction than any of the reels I currently own, not to mention worlds lighter @ 5.7oz. I'll be buying one to try out, if nothing else as a lightweight upgrade for my BPS Pro-Qualifiers assuming the fit & finish is comparable.
_________________ I have a marriage license and a fishing license, but I only carry one in my wallet.
For Sale - Custom Hand Tied Jigs, Bladed Jigs,Custom Rods
2002 Alumacraft 1436LT w/ 1984 Mariner Tiller Converted to Remote & 55# Minn Kota Terrova 12v (removable)
1985 Bass Tracker III - Restoration w/ 1988 Mercury 60hp
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Butthead
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 Posted: 09 Dec 2018, 01:51 |
Joined: 14 Jul 2008, 14:49 Posts: 531 Location: Jessup, MD
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So how do you like it? Also, do the knobs come off or are the caps just for show? I bought the KastKing version of it on a whim and I don't care for it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXOZFKB/It's just a cheap reel. Sure, it's certainly light, but the tolerances suck, it's noisy, and the casting distance is subpar compared to all my other name brand reels. I would say it offers a better value over other reels in the same price range, but not over more expensive offerings. Dollar for dollar, I still like the Academy store brand H2O Express reels better.
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onthewater102
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 Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 11:30 |
Joined: 15 Mar 2014, 16:57 Posts: 1980 Location: CT
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Thus far they're fantastic. I did a detailed review on it in the review section (I think you access it through the tinboats home page). Casting distance is excellent, no more noise than any other reel with a centrifugal brake which can't be helped because you do have shoes rubbing on the inside of a brake hub during the cast.
I haven't handled a kastking so I can't compare, but I did tear this apart side by side with a 3rd Gen Abu Revo Sx and its internals are (IMO) better designed and built with superior materials than the Abu. Time will tell how well the graphite frames hold up.
_________________ I have a marriage license and a fishing license, but I only carry one in my wallet.
For Sale - Custom Hand Tied Jigs, Bladed Jigs,Custom Rods
2002 Alumacraft 1436LT w/ 1984 Mariner Tiller Converted to Remote & 55# Minn Kota Terrova 12v (removable)
1985 Bass Tracker III - Restoration w/ 1988 Mercury 60hp
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JNG
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 Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 15:55 |
Joined: 25 Apr 2013, 10:05 Posts: 74
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I just read your review. Interesting to say the least. Can you shed more light on the company itself?
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onthewater102
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 Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 19:59 |
Joined: 15 Mar 2014, 16:57 Posts: 1980 Location: CT
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JNG wrote: I just read your review. Interesting to say the least. Can you shed more light on the company itself? Not really - I've only spoken to them in emails. They're responsive, for what little that's worth. I haven't had problems with them, but to be honest they've been sidelined since mid-January when the ice ended my open water season. Butthead wrote: So how do you like it? Also, do the knobs come off or are the caps just for show? I bought the KastKing version of it on a whim and I don't care for it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXOZFKB/It's just a cheap reel. Sure, it's certainly light, but the tolerances suck, it's noisy, and the casting distance is subpar compared to all my other name brand reels. I would say it offers a better value over other reels in the same price range, but not over more expensive offerings. Dollar for dollar, I still like the Academy store brand H2O Express reels better. None of the Piscifun knobs are for cosmetics only - each is functional and has a positive click adjustment to it. Taking a closer look at that KastKing I see a few differences - according to the diagrams it doesn't use a bearing to support the main crank shaft through the side plate - so all the rotational loads are born on the anti-reverse bearing rather than a second ball bearing. I can't tell the quality of the bearings used, but given your experience with the casting range I suspect there may be some corners cut there too. There appear to be non-shielded bearings in it, which require a sealed operating environment and proper lubrication which might not be achieved if the fit/finish of the side plates to the reel body isn't tight. I also don't know about the fit and finish of the main drive gear and pinion, if the reel is rough there may be some need for TLC there. This is an area where a higher cost reels perform better than a lower cost option with literally the same internals - it simply takes employee labor time (and the associated cost) in order to tidy up the gears to get the best performance out of them. It appears to use a similar dual braking system to the Piscifun using a centrifugal brake and a magnetic one. I'm pretty familiar with these setups - so I can adjust them very well, I don't know what your experience with them is nor have I used one of those reels to get a feel for how sensitive the adjustments are so I'll walk you through my approach. With centrifugal brakes you should clean and lube the inside of the centrifugal brake drum (no matter who manufactures it) straight out of the box - this will help a lot with the noise associated with these brake systems. Clean and lube the magnet contact surfaces, polish them if you're dealing with a really rough reel, so that you minimize the effect of friction between the magnets and the spool (I didn't do any polishing on the Piscifun). Also, when using a dual brake system, start with the magnet totally off and adjust the centrifugal brake so that you find the setting which allows it to cast without backlashing using only the centrifugal system. Turn the centrifugal system down one level of stopping power, this will still allow it to backlash without application of the magnet. Then fine tune your anti-reverse adjustments as needed with the external magnet adjustment dial, hopefully settling with it set in the mid-point of its adjustment range. Ideally this approach should give you a degree of flexibility to be adjusting the external magnet to account for changes in lure weight and windy conditions.
_________________ I have a marriage license and a fishing license, but I only carry one in my wallet.
For Sale - Custom Hand Tied Jigs, Bladed Jigs,Custom Rods
2002 Alumacraft 1436LT w/ 1984 Mariner Tiller Converted to Remote & 55# Minn Kota Terrova 12v (removable)
1985 Bass Tracker III - Restoration w/ 1988 Mercury 60hp
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