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Post by tfizzle172 » 06 Feb 2011, 00:10

Hey all, my buddy got his hands on a 16 foot flat bottom that was a frozen ice block in the middle of a field and we are going to attempt to make some handy modifications to it. We have been researching all the fantastic ideas from all of you here at Tinboats.net, and can't wait to get this thing on the water. Any help along the way will be greatly appreciated, because our ideas keep changing by the minute every time we look at a different mod on the site!!! I'm having trouble posting pictures if anyone can help me out with that one....I will try to get some up asap once I figure it out.

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Post by tfizzle172 » 06 Feb 2011, 04:22

Okay, here is my attempt to resize the pictures and try to get them to post up alright....
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The Ice Box !!!!

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Post by Brine » 06 Feb 2011, 08:20

Welcome aboard tfizzle, and great tin you got there. When you get a moment, update your profile so we know what part of the world you live.

Looks like a different boat after it was cleaned out. What plans do you have for it?

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Post by Oldgeek » 06 Feb 2011, 10:03

Welcome, I'm about where you are...sorting through all the great ideas on here can make it tough to decide. Did the boat have a former life as a trash can? :lol: That's the easy part to fix. Mine had a bunch of trash/dead minnows frozen in about 3 inches of water. Where you located?
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Post by tfizzle172 » 06 Feb 2011, 10:23

Thanks for the welcome guys. We have been working on the boat quite a bit lately, and I will post some progress pictures. It's pretty cold here in Indiana, so we are not sure on when we will get to start painting.

Plans for now:
Prep boat for paint (take it down to aluminum)
Mock up a raised front deck (3/4" ply) stretching from middle seat to front of boat (bow? Lol, no sure on terminology!)
We will put in floor in middle (1/2" ply?)
Not decided fully how we are going to mod the back seat
Probly Spar Varnish all the wood framing (2x2's) and transom boards
Once weather permits apply steelflex to bottom

Questions:
1) we removed the transom bracket in order to start repleacing the boards, drilling out the rivets. Is there an easy way to re-attach the bracket when ready?

2) when looking at everyone's decking, it looks very "clean" and I don't see how they are affixing it to the seats through the carpet. Does most everybody use small screws through the carpet to attach to framing? or what's the trick?

Thanks for the help.

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Post by tfizzle172 » 06 Feb 2011, 14:39

Ok, here are some more pics of the mock up we are doing for the decking and transom board(s), and most of outside has been wire wheeled down to aluminum. I have looked for threads about how to best attach the carpeted wood down, but can't find specifically how guys are doing this if anyone has a suggestion please (i.e.- use screws same color of carpet? use washers? :
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Post by tfizzle172 » 06 Feb 2011, 19:32

Been using the advanced search to try and find out how everyone is is fastening their decking down and see what looks like some fastening through the carpet (and I just can't see the screws in the pictures), and some prefer to try to put carpet on deck after fastening down and push it in to edges with a putty knife. There's a ton of threads to sift through to find specific info on it, but a lot of good information, but I will take anyone's two cents that has the experience since we are rookies at this!!! Thanks in advance.

Tfizz

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Post by natestep » 07 Feb 2011, 08:41

When I did mine I carpeted the decks and then just screwed the decks down with small headed screws. They hide in the carpet when they sink down. Just fluff the carpet with your hand and you cant see them anymore.

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Post by tfizzle172 » 07 Feb 2011, 09:15

Thanks Natestep......I know it was a silly question, but we really want to keep that clean look, glad it's that easy of an answer!!!

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Post by HOUSE » 07 Feb 2011, 09:24

You gotta love those times when you're walking through a field and you stumble upon a free boat!
:)
Nice work so far guys.

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Post by Brine » 07 Feb 2011, 09:55

The knee brace is the piece of metal that attaches to the floor and your transom. I would simply bolt it back on with some 3M 5200. Make sure to seal that tramsom, and after you've drilled out the holes for the bolts to attach it, take the board back out and seal the inside of the holes you drilled. Then reinstall it.

The same rule applies (for me anyway) with all of your framing. I'd do a dry fit with it all, label it, disassembe it, then use a sealer (like a spar urethane) and put it back together. The framing should last a long time that way.

I like the idea of installing the carpet by wrapping the plywood with the carpet and stapling it to the back of the plywood while using carpet glue. Make sure to use a carpet with a rubber back, and a rolling pin seems to be a good tool for smoothing out the carpet on the glue if you have one available that won't put you in the doghouse for using. Once again, make sure to use a sealer on your plywood paying extra attention to the edges of the ply. Then simply screw the deck down to your framing. Most screws will practically vanish in the carpet. They sell coated deck screws in various colors if you with, or you can take a sharpie and color the screw head black. I think the coated screws are a good option for all of the framing, and if you use them, you could justify using the ones on the deck. You can also buy the screw/grommet combo that (in my opinion) looks good too. You don't need many screws going from your deck to the framing below. Just enough to keep it held down.

Also, make sure any metal hardware you are attaching to your boat is either aluminum or stainless steel to prevent corrosion (rust) between the two dissimilar metals.

Good luck, and it looks like you're making good progress.

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Post by tfizzle172 » 07 Feb 2011, 21:12

Thanks for the input guys!

Brine, thanks for all the good info, we have it on the list to buy some Marine Spar Varnish. I assume on the knee brace you mean we should get some rounded head bolts, similar to a rivet head and put them up through the bottom to hold the bracket, and I will pick up a tube of 3M 5200 to seal it up. Thanks, we didn't want to have to mess with rivets or buying a rivet gun.

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Post by baseball_guy_99 » 08 Feb 2011, 17:49

When I redid the transom in my boat, we replaced the rivets with I think 3/8" Stove Bolts. We also added a rubber washer and silicone (but I would reccomend using the 3m5200).

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Post by Encoreman » 08 Feb 2011, 23:45

So is it final. The name of the boat is "THE ICE BOX"? I like it. Good project boat. Ain't it amazing all the junk you find it a boat and the bed of a used pick-up??

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Post by tfizzle172 » 22 Feb 2011, 16:57

Guys,

Need some suggestions on how to install the piano hinges for hatches so they are hidden, with clean look? is that possible?
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