Waterwings, as you probably can tell already, I'm an old country boy from Alabama that dips snuff and drinks coffee. So as long as I'm not wearing white I'm good to go. You'd be surprised at what all you can get on the new camo and never know it. I spilled coffee on my leg last week, and by lunch I couldn't tell what leg I spilled it on. In whites that woulda meant a trip home to change. The new khaki/black is great too. No tie and it took the place Johnny cashes and the whites. No complaints from me, except I wish they gave you a better choice of boots with the cammies and an increased uniform allowance to cover all this crap. The effin gortex jacket that goes with the camo is $300, and yep you guessed it, it's gotta come outta pocket or you'll freeze like I did last year. No uniform allowance for the extras. BS if ya ask me.