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Post by typed by ben » 18 May 2013, 10:34

hi guys, glad to finally be posting my project. i have a lot of questions and judgement calls and im looking forward to hearing your wise and experienced opinions!

ive been bass and river fishing for about 5 years now. over the last 2 years ive been lucky enough to find a gorgeous and supportive wife, buy a new house with a great yard, and welcome to the world a new daughter! needless to say my fishing and boat maintenance time has gotten nibbled away to nearly zero. my poor shiny bass boat was really being neglected and i recently got more interested in river smallmouth fishing and electric lake fishing, so i knew what i had to do. i put the stratos up for sale or trade for a modified V jon boat.

so long stratos.
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Post by typed by ben » 18 May 2013, 10:40

wouldnt you know it, for the first time in my life a good deal came along. he wanted my boat and i wanted his, so we traded. now i own exactly the boat i wanted to get... a lowe 1648m. good size for two people, light enough to move along with a trolling motor, and no gelcoat to wax or carpet to wash.

i dont have any good shots of it yet but i have made some drawings. id be happy to make some for you all as well if you can send me plan views of your boats, as CAD bases have been super useful to me.
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the PO added some wood deck with outdoor carpet... good enough for what he was doing but not even close to what i want.
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Post by gillhunter » 18 May 2013, 11:03

Welcome to TinBoats! Looking forward to seeing your project. I fish mostly electric in a 1648MV. My project was a simple one. If you want to see a really over the top total electric checkout Brine's project in the link below.



https://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6551

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Post by typed by ben » 18 May 2013, 13:30

gillhunter wrote:Welcome to TinBoats! Looking forward to seeing your project. I fish mostly electric in a 1648MV. My project was a simple one. If you want to see a really over the top total electric checkout Brine's project in the link below.



https://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6551
VERY impressive project. thats why i love this site. yours is a beauty too gillhunter. in fact its one of the projects that tipped the balance to the metal boat side.

thankfully im not ALL electric. we do have plenty of electric only reservoirs in this part of virginia, but theres also plenty of lakes and rivers. for that ill use a 25 hp tiller.
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Post by typed by ben » 18 May 2013, 14:33

okay so lets decide what we want. foregone conclusion is removing the wood and carpet so imagine the boat starting anew.

1. bow mount trolling motor
2. rear mount trolling motor for electric only setup
3. removable tiller outboard (25 hp roughly) and fuel tank
4. comfortable operator setup
5. storage for net, seats, anchor, vests, etc.
6. batteries and 12v bus in front and rear
7. fishfinder/depthfinder for operator in rear
8. nice fishfinder for fishing up front
9. bilge
10. nav lights

this idea has just a large casting deck up front, since i do a lot of fishing by myself. im showing two kingpin seat mounts in the rear- one can be used by whoever is fishing the rear. the other is used when youre driving with the outboard. just jerk the post out and move it over. i have it shown on the port side because im right handed and i feel that would be more comfortable.

up front i have extended a casting deck from the first bench up to the existing bow platform.

-i practically never use a livewell but i know as soon as i removed it id want it back. with this setup id cut a notch over the existing lid and then just use the hardware and setup that lowe provided
-another kingpin mount up front if i want to use a chair or butt seat, but i mostly stand.
-two side opening hatches to utilize storage under the covered deck
-an angled transition to eat up the height difference between the bench (about 6 inches below the gunwale) and the bow platform (level with gunwale)
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pros:
1. less fabrication in the rear, uses what lowe provided with the boat
2. perfect setup for one guy
3. might be safer for little ones to fish near the rear with the side height

cons:
1. less ideal for more than one serious fisherman
2. no hiding spot for the batteries, fuel tank, or wiring in the rear
3. no splashwell when the motor swamps
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Post by Badbagger » 19 May 2013, 03:23

Sounds well thought out. If you start "with a vision", it's a WHOLE lot easier and just what I did with my SeaArk and almost done thank god! Post up photos as you go along.

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Post by meonline06 » 19 May 2013, 12:21

Good luck with your build. Where do you fish for smallies? I'm not a big smallmouth guy, but I've heard Watkins is good.

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Post by typed by ben » 19 May 2013, 13:23

meonline06 wrote:Good luck with your build. Where do you fish for smallies? I'm not a big smallmouth guy, but I've heard Watkins is good.
thats mainly where we boat out of but ive only been a couple few times. i didnt want to take my old boat down there.

i also wade out of pony pasture, the z-dam, and the kayak slide before belle isle. theres actually plenty of largemouth there by pony pasture too. they stick in the little ponds that you find inside big rock formations.

thanks for the wishes- you have a sharp looking project there!
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Post by meonline06 » 19 May 2013, 18:19

I used to fish around Pony Pasture a lot when I was in high school. I stopped after I got sucked over the fish ladder a short ways upriver trying to swim around it. I ended up losing my favorite rod and reel (first one I ever bought with my own money). I'm stuck on land for now until I fix my truck; I may have to see if I can snag some bass there one day. Look forward to seeing your new boat.

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Post by typed by ben » 20 May 2013, 20:48

okay so some of the pieces fell into the puzzle today. found a refreshed 1990 electric start johnson 25 from a guy that frequently posts stuff on CL in this area. drove down to powhatan after work and got it for the low low price of $500. It was a state surplus that had been in fogged storage since 2005.
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first to go is the ugly stencil. ill order a correct decal package. gotta look right.
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i also got some quotes for .080 5052 H32 sheet. thats going to set me back a little less than i thought but im not sure how to get it home, as my truck bed is just a 6 footer. i may shear it at work because the vendor's place is right nearby our building.

i also ordered some right angle brackets with .19 holes to tie together the frame that will support the front casting deck. $5 for a package of 10 is worth more than the time it would take to slam them so i bought 8 bags.
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thats it for today. lookin forward to sunny weather tomorrow and snapping some decent pictures of the boat and trailer.
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Post by ked_man » 21 May 2013, 07:59

You've got a good plan together for sure. Don't forget to take plenty of pictures and post them so those of us who are finished with our mods can still look at some good boat porn.

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Post by typed by ben » 21 May 2013, 21:17

still makin moves even today. got a righteous deal on a miller tig setup. may have my hands on it as soon as the weekend.

i also came home and snapped some shots of the rig as it sits, with the previous owner's mods. itll fish just like it is but i know how i want it to be 8)
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still gotta get up with the guy i traded with. he has my gator mount :evil:

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my 15" johnson in its new home.
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Post by typed by ben » 21 May 2013, 21:19

built-in livewell. the aerator will probably become a bilge.
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ancient-now-but-once-top-of-the-line bottom line fishfinder. these still go for a good penny on ebay. i may sell it because i want to get a nice DI/SI combo for the front and this would be goofy if i moved it by the operator. at the rear i think i want to do shoot-thru anyway to minimize stuff hanging off the bottom of the boat.
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this is probably gonna find its way to ebay as well.
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i may even redo the registration numbers... crooked letters look just about tacky as hell.
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Post by typed by ben » 22 May 2013, 09:22

ive also started thinking more critically about how i want the decks to be laid out. this drawing shows how i would likely need to space supports for the front deck and also shows a rough idea of what the rear should look like.

i decided i definitely want hatches in the rear to cover the batteries, bilge area, and fuel tank. that area is gonna be a tough nut to crack because ill want hatch lids as well as a built in splashwell- and the splashwell will have to be tied to the transom! ugh. thats gonna be involved.
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in the front i decided not to do the angled hatches. in this layout i have three total hatches: two smaller ones on the port side and one larger one on the starboard side.

the two smaller ones will be segregated in the center. the aftside hatch will house the batteries and the foreside hatch will hold PFDs and other stuffable things.

the single large door will be used for seats, posts, and the oars. this layout will be much easier to build as everything is on a right angle. the whole thing would be covered with .080 5052 sheet, painted with some type of neutral tone non skid product.

heres about what that would look like skinned out:
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Post by typed by ben » 24 May 2013, 20:00

just two updates today but theyre good ones.

first, the repro graphics i got from ebay. lookin right.
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tomorrow morning i go pick up my tig. if i have time after that i may rip the front deck out and clean up underneath.

then i just have to start cutting material :mrgreen:
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